How Long Does it Take to Fit a Log Cabin?

I was sent some interesting pictures from a kind customer and it reminded me of all the times I’m asked:  ‘how long does it take to fit a log cabin?’

This is a bit of a tough question really and I think it all comes down to trust, whether you trust Yourself, the Plans, the Product or the Company you are buying from and the advice and help you receive from them.

No trust at all

  • Yourself – If you are worried about yourself, your ability to read the plans and the confidence you can identify a log it will take longer.
  • If you second guess the plans or question what they are showing you too much it will take longer
  • If you don’t entirely trust the company or you are looking for faults in the product it is going to take longer as you will be worrying, you’ll be going over every small detail, counting every possible part over and over again, worrying you have one roof board too few or wondering what this piece of wood is, or where is that piece and where it’s going to go. This is going to take you a lot longer to build your cabin.
  • If you don’t trust the advice you’ve been given it’s going to take longer, you wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve had to argue with a customer (normally a builder or a carpenter) that there are expansion gaps for a reason and that you don’t fix the doors or window frames to the logs.

Without trust in all of the above or at least a few of them your build will take longer.


If you are going to buy from us or others I’d like you to have some trust at least in some of the above. This of course will depend on lots of factors. Can you Trust?

  • Yourself – Identify the parts as you unpack and make a mental note of them. Trust that you can read the plans. I’ll add some advice at the bottom of this post with some quick identification hints.
  • Plans – Follow the plans that came WITH the building, try not to second guess them or disbelieve them, follow them exactly.
  • Trust the advice you are given. I don’t know much about other companies support these days but we try to give you as much information as possible. Personally I spend a lot of time writing and updating these blogs with help and advice and also help out of hours when my and my colleagues family life permits. This advice is also transferable to any ‘Good Make’ of log cabin. Some of it won’t work with rubbish – watch out for cabins when you have to screw the logs together or a roof you can’t actually work on as the purlins are so small. Worse still if you don’t have wind and watertight connections then ignore all of my advice as you have bought rubbish and I can’t help you.

How long Does it Take to Fit a Log Cabin

The pictures Mr C sent to me are further down the page, what I loved is that they are date and time stamped which shows quite clearly how long the build took.

The building is a Wolfgang Log Cabin, a pretty daunting structure for most customers with two rooms and an odd shape. Before you look at the pictures from Mr C, honestly ask yourself how long you think this build would take you.

The Wolfgang log cabin which is 5.3 x 4.5 with an attached shed and porch. How long do you think this takes to install?

The Wolfgang log cabin which is 5.3 x 4.5 with an attached shed and porch. How long do you think this takes to install?

How long did you think? I bet some of you will be thinking four or five days, maybe more? Here’s Mr C’s pictures and notice the time stamps on them.

The build started from scratch at about 0800. The cabin was then unpacked, stacked in components sizes. Critical parts identified and put to one side. This picture is time stamped 0944 so we're about an hour and three quarters into the fit. Unpacking and moving takes a good hour.

The build started from scratch at about 08:00. The cabin was then unpacked, stacked in components sizes. Critical parts identified and put to one side. This picture is time stamped 0944 so we’re about an hour and three quarters into the fit. Unpacking and moving takes a good hour.

Now at 1025 and the doors and windows are in and they are almost at the eaves height.

Now at 10:25 and the doors and windows are in and they are almost at the eaves height.

1347 which is about six hours into the fit and the roof shingles are almost done.

13:47 which is about six hours into the fit and the roof shingles are almost done.

1907 and the fitters have left site, tidied up and even had time to fit the guttering during the install.

19:07 and the fitters have left site, tidied up and even had time to fit the guttering during the install.

So there you have it, fitted in a day, and this building is probably one of our most complicated ones. If you’re interested these are the plans they will have been following: Log Cabin Plans

But of course, these guys you will say ‘know what they are doing’. There are no real tricks honest, you will have the same time frames as them.

It’s not a matter of ‘they know all the parts’ All they are doing is trusting themselves, the plans and the product. The only edge they will have on someone doing it for the first time is they can identify parts in the plans and sort them as they are unpacking, i’ll come on to that a bit later.

Of course I’ll give a little leeway for inexperience and I would say this cabin should take you, being inexperienced, two – two and a half days. My rule of thumb is for an experienced fitter a 4 x 3m and less is generally one day, bigger is one and a half to two and a monster like the Edelweiss is three to four. For a first timer add one extra day.

This though is only if you have trust and the package is within 100m of the base as lugging it any distance can take a long time.

It’s taken forever – Richard you’re WRONG!

If you are considering one of our log cabins no doubt you will have a scan through some of our reviews. Have a look at the reviews for Asmund Corner Log Cabin, this is one of our best sellers.

You’ll see lots of varying time scales in the various reviews from 1 day all the way to 5 days

  • My wife & I constructed the cabin with virtually no assistance in 5 days which went well
  • The cabin itself took my brother and myself only a few days to completely assemble and finish
  • All in all 11 hours and the cabin was fully erected and roof tiles in place
  • It’s taken me about 5 working days to construct, single-handed
  • Quick construction – 3 days in total, four once I have finished the shingling.
  • It has taken three adults two days to complete the build.
  • I paid a local landscaping contractor to build mine, and it took 2 men with carpentry skills 2.5 days to assemble it
  • very easy to assemble
  • instructions for assembly are easy to follow to construct.
  • As occasional DIY’rs I couldn’t believe how quickly we built it
  • The cabin was quite straightforward to put together, taking about 4 days to build in total (Two people)
  • My husband and Son, put it up in no time at all, with no problems
  • It took 1.5 days to erect with 2 men.

So yes, you could well shout at me after you have found it’s taken longer but I still stand by my assessment is that it’s all down to Trust in yourself, the Product, Plans, Company and Advice.

It’s interesting that some customers get it banged up really quickly, yet the review left by a poor lady who hired a ‘landscaper with carpentry skills’ to build hers took 2.5 days and had a lot of problems, I remember well talking those ‘Fitters’ through it.

If you are employing fitters such as carpenters, joiners or builders gently point them to all our advice. A log cabin could be totally new to them even if they don’t admit it to you. Don’t rely on their trade giving them the information on the correct way to install a cabin.

As a quick example this was an installation by ‘Professional Carpenter and joiner of 20 years experience’

Very large gaps in the wall logs were appearing and the customer assured me it was installed by a carpenter of 20 years experience and she had used him for loads of work and his work was of an excellent standard so therefore it was our fault.

Very large gaps in the wall logs were appearing and the customer was in discussion with me after this happened six months later. She assured me it was installed by a carpenter of 20 years experience (I shudder when I hear this statement) and she had used him for loads of work and that his work was of an excellent standard so therefore the building was defective.

Gaps were showing in her building

Gaps were showing in her building

I explained to the customer exactly what was wrong with this log cabin several times but she would not take my advice and kept referring to how experienced the carpenter was that had installed it.

See there’s the Trust issue again!

The customer was very uncooperative and after discussions I agreed to visit her. If it was our fault I had agreed we would supply a complete new building and also cover all the costs for installation and painting. But, if it was not our fault she would pay for the inspection and rectification.

Our customer trusted her experienced carpenter and refused to trust me. I found this nail, one of many through the window and door frames into the logs. This will stop your building from moving and you will either have gaps or splits caused by this.

Our customer trusted her experienced carpenter and refused to trust me.

Nails in the fascia going through to the logs.

Nails in the fascia going through to the logs.

I found several nails going through the window and door fascias which went into the logs. Doing this will stop your building from moving and you will either have gaps or splits.

After I removed all of these the whole thing settled back down again to where it should be and all gaps closed straightaway. Remind any fitter, no matter what trade – WOOD MOVES and doors and windows have to be independent to the wall logs, I guarantee you a tradesperson will always overlook this if they have not installed a cabin before.

Removing all the fixings the logs closed up to where they should be

Removing all the fixings the logs closed up to where they should be

More problems with her cabin caused by a 'Professional Painter'

More problems with her cabin caused by a ‘Professional Painter’

In my inspection I also looked at the moisture content and depth of treatment for her. It got worse and her ‘professional painter’ had cocked up as well –  Moisture content and depth of treatment in log cabins

The lady was a bit miffed having to pay me for the visit and the ‘Experienced Carpenter’ who met me on site with her was incredibly embarrassed.

If you’re employing a trade, gently remind them to have a look at the various pieces of advice there is and they will fit quicker, be cheaper and you and I won’t be having a discussion in a few months time.

So what’s the secret?

The secret to a quick install is all in the identification of parts in the plans and not worrying about what you do not understand. I always tell people I talk to: ‘Take it one stage at a time’.

All will become clear as it goes up and do not focus on bits you do not understand until you reach that point. The biggest mistake with an installation is over thinking it. Fitting a log cabin is Easy!

We start our day fitting and note the package number we find on the packaging, just in case we have problems later and need to ask for parts, claims etc, if you buy from us we will always ask for this number so you may as well note it down just in case.

  • Take the tanalised lengths of timber off the package or the profiled foundation beams, put them straight onto your base and do not worry about them.
  • You will find a big bag of nails and roofing tacks, put these to one side. Yes we send lots, don’t worry about them.
  • Do not open the floor packs if you have these. These will be on top of the main package.  Put them away somewhere, you don’t need these until the cabin has been built.
  • Take the plastic off carefully and try to keep it in one piece, it might be handy to use this if it chucks down later or to cover the purlins / rafters / apexes to protect them from the sun.
  • The pack is not going to be in fitting order so don’t expect it to be.
  • Start unpacking and look at the various log sizes as you go, put each log size in it’s own area. Do not think about anything at this point, just unpack it and lay out the logs of the same size on top of each other. Make extra stacks next to them if needed you can go about ten logs high before the stack gets a bit unstable. Try to keep them supported, it helps if you have some timber to lay and support them on.
  • Anything you can’t identify – Don’t start looking at the plans for it and don’t worry about it, put it to one side and remember where you put it and roughly what it looked like.
  • Rafter and purlins are easy to spot. Put them to one side and away from the build, keep them straight, supported and covered from a hot sun to stop any warps.
  • When you come across a log that has been cut horizontally in half put it straight onto the base, this is a starter log and the beginning of the build. It may also be a top log but worry about it later.
  • Roof boards will all be together, put these to one side and do not worry about them.
  • As you unpack you will come to the plans and generic instructions. Put these to one side, don’t even look at them. You can also see far more detailed generic instructions and videos online that I have written to compliment those received with the log cabin if you fancy reading them: Installation Manual
  • Keep unpacking and for most buildings you will come to doors and windows, put these somewhere safe.

You should now have an area full of logs, bits and bobs. Don’t worry about any of it, and don’t panic at the site of it – ‘one section at a time’ and this is what all professional fitters will do.

Quick Identification of parts

So here’s a few heads up, look for these as you unpack the cabin and Do NOT worry about any of them, recognise them and put them to one side depending on your cabin.

Starter logs, these are logs cut horizontally in half

Starter logs, these are logs cut horizontally in half

Normal logs, nothing is different with these, they are all the same even when attached to a half starter log

Normal logs, nothing is different with these, they are all the same even when attached to a half starter log. If you have posts for canopies these may be longer than required. You can cut these down to fit as required.

You may find odd cut logs, put these to one side until you need then and do not worry about them

You may find odd cut logs, put these to one side until you need then and do not worry about them. When you come to that section in the plans then look at them. Do not over think a build – it’s Easy!

Some times with the corner log cabin look for a log with the tongues cut off. Put it to one side and worry about it when you need it.

Some times with the corner log cabin look for a log with the tongues cut off. Put it to one side and worry about it when you need it.

Please see this link for more help following on from this article : Installation tips for Tuin Log Cabins

As I always say:

If you have any questions at all regarding installation please always ask us, even out of hours as several of us often check emails for helps requests on our days / time off.

If you need help out of hours send an email to and entitle it Fitting Help and myself or other experienced fitters will get back to you. It helps if you send us a picture(s) of what you are seeing and a brief description of the problem.

For more hints and tips on log cabin installation please click here.

As a side to all of this, I must brag a little, I try to be impartial in my advice here but I did love these comments from Mr C:

I will be sending you pictures from start to finish. Superb initial  service and advice. Super-fast delivery and the truck driver was helpful and polite. Len and team brilliant in building the cabin. All in all the best service I have received and what a beautiful cabin. Many thanks

After I asked for permission to add his pictures to a blog Mr C wrote:

Please be my guest. When its painted and done up I will send you some more. I will go on the review page shortly. It is on my face book and friends from Scotland to Sweden have seen it. Whoever has come to do electrics and paint have been very impressed, by the standard of finish and the quality of wood. So By browsing the internet that Saturday you were the first one to reply promptly and with all the details I needed, I hit the jackpot!

Mr C’s Review of the Wolfgang was:

Superb initial service and advice. The office girls new exactly want I wanted.
Super-fast delivery and the truck driver was helpful and polite
Len and team brilliant in building the cabin
All in all the best service I have received and what a beautiful cabin. The quality of wood and finish is very good.Many thanks xxxxxxxxxxx


Twisted Log Complaint

I had a complaint recently about a twisted log at the start of a customers log cabin build. I was sent these two pictures and a complaint email:

A wall log had twisted slightly.

A wall log had twisted slightly.

Twist in a log cabin wall log

Twist in a log cabin wall log which caused the lower log to lift up when unsecured.

His main complaint were the twisted logs. I tried explaining that wood does twist sometimes, it cannot be helped by it’s very nature. This can sometimes happen especially when a cabin has been unpacked and then left for a while before install. It can also happen just with the heat of the sun on it causing the wood to dry losing moisture quickly on one side. Rarely though is it a problem and it is very easy to overcome.

His second complaint was that the joints were too tight and that he didn’t have a hammer to hit the logs in. I explained that, yes, the joints are tight, that is part of why you would buy a log cabin from us: Please see Moisture Content in Log Cabins and also: Wind and watertight connections

I’m normally very good at talking through fit problems with customers but on this occasion I failed, so my colleague also spoke to him and failed. We sent pictures on how to overcome his issues but none of it was enough to solve the problem for him.

We also found out that the customer did not have the necessary tools to actually carry out the install or overcome the twisted log problem anyway. Also he explained that he was not aware of what is required in installing a log cabin and we should have let him know.

All my blogs have been in vain! None of it was referred to and I thought I had done so well in giving as much information as possible.

Mr B was one of a handful of customers I have had this year who insisted these were grounds for a big complaint and that it could not be installed.

I really don’t like complaints, especially when there’s absolutely nothing wrong. It’s also very costly for us as well and I needed to understand why a customer does not understand the install and why it become so daunting and complaints raised. I realised that no amount of explaining or pictures or email was going to solve this so I arranged a site visit with Mr B.

On meeting Mr B I was able to spend a long time with him asking about his impressions, why he didn’t realise fitting was a little more than slotting together and why he wasn’t aware of the tools needed. It came across that we’re not getting the information out there or fast enough on the product pages or post purchase emails. Mr B explained that he thought it would just slot together and would worry about installation when the cabin arrived. With the two twisted logs and the fact that the logs do not simply fall into each other the whole task became too daunting and he simply said he couldn’t / wouldn’t do it and it was a complaint, defective, fault etc.

Armed with this information we are going to have a little redesign of the site and will try to make information quicker to access. Mr B explained that he is very visual, pictures not words are needed. The only option is full videos and this is what I am now doing and will be doing all over the winter to try and help more, not just with log cabins but as much of the product range as I can.

With my sparkly new video camera I have tried to address all of Mr B’s problems and concerns which I hope will help future customers with the same problems

We took the partial log cabin installation apart and reset everything and started again from scratch.

These are the videos that arose from our conversations and his install of a ‘faulty’ log cabin, these are going to form the basis of a whole series on log cabins and their installation of several different types we supply.

Tools that are needed for a log cabin install

Installation of a Log Cabin – Full install overview

One of the biggest things that came out of our conversation was that Mr B had not expected the joints to be tight or that it would require any force to go together, he said he had ‘Expected a little resistance’. Some suppliers cabin will fall together with no effort at all, it might be a good thing when you’re installing but a bugger when it rains hard a few months later.

This log cabin install video is pretty long at 20 minutes but I needed to address every aspect of the install as Mr B wants everything spelt out, I have tried to do this for this particular cabin. Much of this applies to any of our apex log cabins and the same principles can be applied to our hipped roof log cabins.

A lot of customers will complain about instructions as well but most of a log cabin install is a practical ability and an ability to simply read a set of plans, an understanding of timber and it’s foibles does of course also help. I hope this video gets across exactly what is required. I like to think that if Mr B had seen these then we would not have had the complaint in the first place.

You may be also interested in other customers buildings posts and thoughts:


More on Log Cabin Insulation

I was sitting here this evening enjoying a glass of wine as unfortunately I am in the habit of doing. I was having a wander around the internet just to see what other competitors are up to at the moment.

I then saw a statement that said ‘Very few other companies even offer floor insulation with Log Cabins’. It made me choke on the current mouthful of wine I was enjoying. In fact that mouthful pretty much covered my keyboard with all the spluttering.

I had to re-read exactly what I had seen to be sure. Yup! It did actually say  ‘Very few other companies even offer floor insulation with Log Cabins’. I then had to write this as a bit of a rant as I was flabbergasted this statement was being used to sell a log cabin.

Rip Off

Please let me explain and for you to watch out what you are buying.  I have been involved in numerous companies within the garden and log cabin industry. One of the top things they all did was buy the insulation from a builders merchant or similar supplier. They would then add 30 – 50% and sell it to the customer as an ‘insulation pack’. In a previous life of mine we would order the product from Travis Perkins and have them deliver it on the same day as the cabin and make 30% on it. Companies try all sorts of packs and give all sorts of recommendations and up-sell. In my mind it is all very dishonest to the customer.


Since I joined Tuin and Tuindeco that was one thing I stamped out. I felt all we should be interested in is selling our primary product, it did not sit easy with me at all that we are basically ripping people off so when I joined I quickly put a stop to ‘insulation packs’ with our buildings.


My advice, whether you buy from us or not, is DO NOT buy any insulation packs with a log cabin.  You will find everything you need at a builders merchant or on-line from people who specialise in insulation, they are in a far better position to advise you on the most suitable product, there are loads of different products available. I had a customer recently who found insulation boards that were 20mm thick but the same U value as 100mm standard insulation board!

The only thing you will need to do, to fit insulation is some extra timber for barge-boards and covering, ask me please if you need this.

I really don’t mind who you buy from, (slightly miffed if it’s not us of course) but I will offer advise to anyone who needs it on how to insulate their log cabin very cheaply, Of course also without falling for the ‘log cabin insulation pack’ trick. Including how to insulate the inside of the walls and line them so you don’t have to fall for the double skin log cabin trick, which is a subject for another post, and PLEASE don’t get me started on the double glazing in everything trick!

Here’s a post I wrote about insulating a log cabin a while ago which may be interesting to you:


Ah but you might like the easy life? Of course Sir,you would like an insulation pack?  Yes Sir we can of course provide that …. it’s really great, U value Blah, it has Poly blah, blah, it’s really good honest Sir and very good value

All I’ll do is give the local building supplies a call or maybe on-line and order it for direct delivery on the same day as I deliver you the log cabin…. But hey I can make some money from you … card details please.  Do you really want that? …. Nor do I, I believe in honesty and ‘log cabin Insulation packs’ are the biggest rip off in the trade at the moment ….. oh and twin skins …. oh and double glazing in everything … I said NOT to get me started!!


Insulating a Log Cabin Floor and Roof

If you were one of my customers and you were buying a lovely new log cabin from me, especially one of our thicker wall log cabins such as 50mm upwards, I would be strongly urging you to insulate at the least the floor of your new log cabin. I would also try to nudge you to insulate the roof as well.

You may also be interested in this post on double glazing, R and U values and Log cabin thermal properties: Double Glazing in Log Cabins

The benefits are obvious for you.  You’ve decided upon your building, you’ve weighed up the benefits of the thicker logs and of course the double glazing.  But, a lot of heat is lost from the floor and it’s cold rising up and of course loads is lost through the roof.  Ideally we want these areas insulated and to the same or similar as the wall thickness.

Lots of retailers supply ‘insulation kits’ with their buildings, we don’t, but we could, we could make a bit of money out of it as well.  But seeing as the cabins are costly enough as it is do you really want to add more cost if you can help it.  So, instead of me supplying you a special insulation package and making some money from it I’ll tell you how to do it yourself and save money or better still spend the saving on better quality insulation.  All the insulation I talk about is ordered through any builders merchant, most of which will deliver to you at the fraction of the cost of a retailers special ‘Insulation pack’.

I like the Celotex brand of board, I’ve used several types over the years but get on best with this one.


Here’s a link where you can download more details on the product:  Product Guide

I know lots of other manufacturers do a similar product, some better and some worse, that part is up to you but I prefer a solid fibre board to work with as above.

Of course there are lots of ways to accomplish an insulated roof and floor.  Some fitters favour adding it underneath the roof and boarding it out thus keeping the insulation in.  Some will put a frame on top of the roof and use rockwool and ply over the top.  I have never used these methods as I can’t see the benefit other than perhaps a saving in the insulation material cost itself.

So, my rough and simple guide on how to insulate your roof and floor of your new log cabin.

Insulate the floor

A quick one before explaining this:  Have you considered a DPM?  A damp proof membrane either within your base or on top of it.  It’s well worth it and prevents any damp coming up and into your building. (

I build my log cabin as usual on the 44mm tanalised timber foundation beams we supply with every building and I’ve now completed the build.  I’m left with the floor to put down and the roof covering to apply.  If I’m using a floor pack I will set out my floor bearers as normal.  I then cut up my insulation board which I’ve ordered from the local builders merchant at 50mm deep.  This sits perfectly between and within the bearers, the joists support my build while the insulation boards supports it. If you want to be exact to the joists then use 40mm.

Insulation board is placed within the bearers

Insulation board is placed within the bearers

Now I simply lay my floor boards as normal, happy that the floor is insulated.

Another method is to not bother with the floor pack and to fill the inner area of the cabin with the insulation boards.  On top of that you use far cheaper OSB sheets or chipboard flooring, this is especially relevant if you are later putting down carpet as OSB is certainly cheaper than our nice T&G pine.

Obviously you’ll need to work out how much board you need with a simple calculation of length x breadth to find the square meter and order the equivalent from your local builders merchant.

Insulating the Roof of your log cabin:

The roof is a little trickier to do and takes a little more work.  Before we start you need to decide what thickness of insulation board to use.  50mm, the same as the floor is very convenient and often used.  You could also go up to 70mm to gain the same R value.  I have also used 100mm when specified by planners.  Regardless the same principle applies.

Work out how much you need by calculating one side of the roof area and times it by two.  As well as the insulation boards you will also need to order longer clout nails.  These need to be long enough to go through the final roof surface, insulation and into the roof timber boards.  If you’re using 50mm insulation then order 65mm nails for the flats of the roof and 70mm clout nails for the ridges.

Lay the boards so they are flush with the leading edge.  Bare in mind this is going to be exposed so consider how you’re going to cover it.  In this example we were using 50mm board and turned the roof trim the other way up:

Roof trim along the leading edge ready for the insulation board

Roof trim along the leading edge ready for the insulation board

You can also cover this portion later with additional timber but it is worth considering it at this point.  You may need to source locally the additional trim timber.

Now lay one layer of insulation boards and fix into place using one clout nail in each corner and one in the center.  You can then felt or shingle it up to that first board.  Don’t be tempted to do the whole roof with the insulation as you will eventually have to get on the roof to tile or felt it and with the whole roof done it can be very slippery.

Once a board is complete with tiles or felt move on to the next and carry on adding boards and tiles until you reach the top.

Insulating a log cabin roof

Insulating a log cabin roof

For tips on shingling your roof please see this post: Tips on how to fit Felt Shingles on your Log cabin


The last consideration is the bargeboards to the front and back.  You can either move the supplied one up or double up the barge boards as below, again you may need to source this additional timber locally:


The same principle also applied to hipped, octagonal and hexagonal roof.  The only slight difference is that  you will finish the corners of the ridges slightly differently where by you will cut them flush with the end of the roof boards.  You will then cut a fillet to fill in the ‘v’ that naturally forms.

One last tip, if you haven’t got a timber saw or a proper board saw, your wives bread knife works a treat for cutting the insulation boards!

Insulated Log Cabin

Insulated Log Cabin

More on insulating a log cabin can be seen here, it’s a bit of a rant about the current trends in the ‘Log cabin industry’ and all the rip off’s that abound. Please see here: More on Log Cabin Insulation

You may also be interested in this post on double glazing, R and U values and Log cabin thermal properties: Double Glazing in Log Cabins

Please see the following article of how to make insulated walls, partition walls and how to use thicker insulation in the roof: Dealing with expansion and contraction in Log Cabins

Finishing the Leading Edge.

Recently I have been asked for more details on how to finish the leading edge of the roof, hopefully this sketch will give you some ideas:

Ideas for finishing the leading edge of the roof.